Sunday, April 14, 2019

Game of Thrones Predictions and Hopes




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Since I’m fairly confident everyone wants to hear my Game of Thrones theories and hopes (this is a mix of both, so some of it doesn’t have hard backing), I thought I’d lay them all out for you. You’re welcome.

First a quick summation of where we are in the show. The Others have breached the wall with their resurrected dragon and are heading South. Danaerys, Jon, Tyrion, and the remaining Starks are in the North or on their way to face them. Cersei, despite her promise, is not planning to meet them, but Jamie is keeping his word and heading North as well. Cersei plans to face whichever foe emerges victorious from the North.

Before I delve into my theories, here’s a few background things you might need a reminder of, you can skip these if you want:

Major Prophecies of Game of Thrones:

Azor Ahai (reborn): The Prince (genderless) that was promised will be born amid smoke and salt. His flaming sword, Lightbringer (requiring the sacrifice of Azor’s wife to be forged) will be drawn from the fire. He will awaken stone dragons and free Westeros from the second Long Night. The original Azor Ahai was instrumental in ending the Long Night. When it ended, and the Others were defeated in the Battle for the Dawn, the Wall was put up, and the Night’s Watch started.

The Stallion Who Will Mount the World: will unite all the Dothraki in a single khalasar

Rhaegar Targaryen: Danaerys sees Rhaegar, Ellia and son Aegon, Rhaegar says “Aegon…What better name for a king…He is the prince that was promised and his is the song of ice and fire.”

Maggy the Woods Witch: Most of them have already been fulfilled, the ones that are unclear is who the younger more beautiful queen is and “when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar (little brother) shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.”

Mirri Maz Duur: “When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again and you bear a living child, then shall he return and not before.”

The Undying ‘Three’: "three fires must you light... one for life and one for death and one to love... three mounts must you ride... one to bed and one to dread and one to love... three treasons will you know... once for blood and once for gold and once for love..."

The Horns: Largely left out of the show so far, there are two horns that might be instrumental in the fate of the battle.

The Horn of Winter: Can bring down the Wall and raise the giants (no one knows what this refers to, but some think it is the ice dragons the Wall is maybe made from.) Location unknown.

Dragonbinder: gives control of any dragon who hears it to the horn’s master (not the one that blows it, they burn from the inside out). In the book this has been found by Victarion Greyjoy (not featured in the show and is probably combined with Euron Greyjoy to simplify)

The Swords:

Ice: Ned’s Valyrian steel blade was melted down after Ned’s death by Tywin Lannister and reforged into two swords: Oathkeeper for Jaime and Widow’s Wail for Joffrey. Jaime gave Oathkeeper to Brienne of Tarth and it remains with her (she is in the North) Widow’s Wail. When Joffrey died the book never mentions the sword again, but in the show Jaime has it when he confronts Olenna Tyrell. So both swords from Ice are heading home.

Heartsbane: The Valyrian steel sword of House Tarly recently stolen by Samwell Tarly, who is heading North.

Longclaw: Jon Snow’s Valyrian steel blade from Commander Mormont. He still carries it.

Tyrion’s dagger: The one that was used to try to kill Bran Stark. Little Finger gave it to Bran and Bran gave it to Arya and Arya killed Little Finger with it. She still carries it.

Needle: Arya’s sword from Jon. She lost it but retrieved it and carries it still.

Dawn: The sword of house Dayne, only wielded by knights, not passed from lord to heir. After Ned slew Ser Arthur Dayne, he delivered the sword to his sister Ashara to be sure it remained in the family.

Lightbringer: It is the legendary sword of Azor Ahai, forged of fire and tempered in heart of his wife, binding her soul to it. Melisandre called Stannis’ sword this. In the book, Maester Aemon suspects that Stannis’ sword is not the real Lightbringer, the whereabouts of the blade are unknown.

Blackfyre: Aegon the Conqueror’s Valyrian steel sword that may be in the possession of the Golden Company, as the last known holder was the man who founded the Golden Company.

Dark Sister: The Valyrian steel sword of Visenya Targaryen. It was last known in the possession of Brynden Rivers who joined the Night’s Watch and may be the three-eyed raven. In the show, when Meera Reed is fleeing the white walkers, she comes across a sword and grabs it. This may just be the long lost Dark Sister.

Minor Characters and their fates:

Brienne of Tarth: Brienne is hardcore when it comes to her word. She is a foil for Jaime Lannister and I think their fates will be entwined. Jaime had a dream that was basically him and Brienne against 7 dead mean (mostly former Kingsguard, but also Rhaegar Targaryen) In the end, I think she will be the reason Jaime remembers his first broken oath and tries to redeem himself. Most things seem to indicate that Brienne will survive the season.

Sam and Gilly: Sam would be a likely choice for Jon’s Hand, when they finally reunite, though he is a sworn brother of the Night’s Watch, so that might keep him from it. It is hard to say what will become of the Night’s Watch with the wall coming down, but my guess is that they will largely join the battle against the dead and their oaths will change of necessity. He may also become Maester at Winterfell, eventually. Gilly’s son is Craster’s last (and 100th!) and should have become a White Walker. His being at Winterfell will be noticed by the White Walkers and I expect he will play a role in the upcoming war, on which side I don’t think I have enough information to say.

Theon and Asha: Asha (Yara) tried to rescue Theon from Ramsey, but Ramsey had already nearly destroyed him. I think Theon will rescue Asha, but Euron will have nearly destroyed her. I hope she will come back from it and will become the leader of Danaerys’ navy and get revenge on Euron, though that is maybe too happy of an outcome for Game of Thrones. I think Theon will die in the battle. Sacrificing himself to save one of the Starks would be fitting, since his greatest guilt stems from his betrayal of them.

Major Characters:

Sansa Stark: I started with her for my friend, Marshall. Sansa is quickly becoming a woman to be reckoned with. I think she will end up ruling Winterfell (Jon is bound for more and Bran has no interest and a different fate, Arya doesn’t want it either, so Sansa is the eldest surviving Stark and fits the role.) I think she will be key in the downfall of Cersei Lannister, fitting as Cersei was key in the rise of Sansa.

The Hound and Arya Stark: I put the Hound as a major character because of the interesting arc of him and Arya. The two have had opposite arcs, she starts a girl with a strong moral compass who hates the Hound, a soldier who likes to kill because he’s good at it. She ends a soldier for the Faceless god, who likes to kill because she’s good at it. He finds his moral compass and is a much milder person, though he isn’t seeking redemption for his misdeeds, he is clearly on a different path. I think he will have a showdown with the Mountain, it has been a long time coming. I don’t think he will win, but I think Arya will bring down the Mountain for him, she might die doing it and save the Hound. The Mountain is on Arya’s kill list and will be the last one she crosses off. She’ll probably do in Melisandre and Ilyn Payne as well. I think perhaps Beric Dondarrion might’ve earned himself a way off her kill list, if Gendry forgives him, which seems likely. Everyone else is gone already, save Cersei and I think her doom lies elsewhere (actually maybe not, read Jaime*). I’d be surprised if the Hound or Arya make it through the season, though this is one prediction I’d love to be wrong about. Arya has been my favorite Stark since day one. I also hope that Arya might end up wielding Dark Sister.

Cersei Lannister: If Cersei is pregnant, the baby will not survive, she’s already had her 3 children. Cersei has nothing left to lose. I think she would like to watch the world burn and is going to give it her all. She will attack the North, I think it likely that she will even ally herself with the Night King. The horn of Winter or Dragonbinder would be a good bargaining chip. She will doubtless put up a mighty fight. But, “in the game of thrones, you win or you die” and I don’t think Cersei will win.

Jamie Lannister: I think Jaime will kill Cersei (sort of*). It will offer him fulfillment of his vows (the vow to keep the Stark girls safe and the vow to keep Rhaegar’s children safe (Jon’s the only one left, and when Jaime discovers this, I think he will be determined to fill his vow Rhaegar) It also would make Maggy’s final prediction to Cersei literally true (all have been literally true so far), killed by a ‘little brother’. I don’t think Jaime will survive the season, however. (I'm adding on to this is parentheses, I read a theory about Arya wearing Jaime's face would kill Cersei, and I really like it as it keeps the meaning of the prophesy intact while making the bit about hands shocking and spot on.*)

Tyrion Lannister: There are rampant rumors that Tyrion is a Targaryen and they aren’t unfounded, Aerys was infatuated with his mother (if true it would mean that Tyrion and Jaime killed each other’s fathers). I’m on the fence. I’d like him to be a Lannister because that would make Tywin wrong. But I’d like the Targaryen aspect because then he might get to live his dream of flying a dragon. Regardless, I don’t think Tyrion is in for a happy ending. He will find some insight in fighting the walkers and may work to help Bran, but his skills aren’t in battle. I think Tyrion will die and it will probably be Cersei’s doing, which might help motivate Jaime. His death will end the Lannister line which, considering Tywin’s obsession with legacy, would be just.

Danaerys: The prophecy of three is a little confusing and probably not entirely literal. The three fires she lights, life for her dragons, death for the slavers or the Dosh Khaleen, love might be a reference to Jon and awakening the Targaryen in him or maybe she’ll go mad like her father. The three mounts would be Drogo to bed, Drogon to dread and Jon to love? Three treasons are harder, she is betrayed a lot. The blood was probably Mirri Maz Duur, the gold I’m inclined to believe was Jorah. So, who betrays her for love? I think probably Grey Worm for his love of Missandei may betray Danaerys in a crucial moment. It could also be Tyrion for Jaime, but I don’t think so. Dany is probably the stallion who mounts the world, she has succeeded in uniting the Dothraki and riding to the ends of the world. Danaerys also fits the prophecy as the prince that was promised, she could easily be Azor Ahai reborn. She wakened stone dragons and was born of salt and smoke. She is leading the fight against the others and I think she will win, at great cost. See Jon Snow and The Dragons for more on this. I think Mirri Maz Duur’s cryptic answer to Dany about Khal Drogo may have some prophesy in it. See Bran Stark for more on this.

Jon Snow: In the TV show, Jon was revealed to be Aegon, trueborn son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen. Rhaegar had two trueborn children with Ellia Martell: Rhaenys and Aegon. I think the show is combining Aegon and Jon for simplicity. In the book, Aegon was saved from the Mountain and is still alive. It would be odd for Rhaegar to have two trueborn sons named Aegon, so this somewhat muddles the prophecies. Jon still fits the bill for Rhaegar’s prophesy, especially the part about the song of ice and fire (he has both the blood of the Kings of Winter and the blood of the dragon). Many people argue that he is Azor Ahai, but I think a stronger argument can be made for Danaerys. He is missing the sword and the stone dragons, both which may come about eventually, but I don’t think so. I think he will lead the fight against the Others, I think he will ride a dragon (Rhaegal, most likely, but he might waken his own--there is rumored to be an egg in the crypts of Winterfell, it just wouldn’t have time to grow up, I’d think.) So if she is Azor Ahai, how does Jon fit in? I think in the bit of the prophecy that Dany is missing. She is Azor Ahai and he is Lightbringer. Bear with me here. Lightbringer is probably not a literal sword. Lightbringer is the tool that ends the Others. So how is Jon this tool? Well first let’s look at the forging of Lightbringer and the forging of Jon Snow. It took three times to get it right, to make it powerful enough to complete its purpose and took the sacrifice of one AA loved. Jon has passed through three identities, first Jon Snow-bastard of Winterfell, second as a man of the Night’s Watch, and finally he is (probably) going to become Aegon Targaryen. Second, let’s look at the description of the sword itself. It is called a sword. It is said to give off heat, especially when used in battle and it ended the Long Night in the “Battle Before the Dawn”. Now let’s look at Jon’s Night’s Watch vows. Particularly “I am the sword in the darkness…I am the fire that burns against the cold…the light that brings the dawn”. True there are hundreds in the Night’s Watch, maybe they are all Lightbringer together, but I think that Jon particularly fits. I think he will be instrumental in ending the Others, but at the cost of his life (for real this time, like the sacrifice of Azor Ahai’s wife). I do not think Jon Snow is likely to survive the season. He may live long enough to get Dany pregnant (with twins, ideally).

Bran Stark: Let’s face it, the only reason Bran is still around is because he plays a vital role in the final battle. I think he is trying to stop it from happening and continues to venture into the past to find the key to stop it. Along the way, he may become the reason Aerys Targaryen went mad in the first place (think of Hodor and if that had happened while Bran was entrenched in a battle where burning your enemies is the only way to be sure they stay dead) If he’s smart, he might sort out that he did this and stop delving into the past, which would, ironically, mean that he would never be born because his uncle Brandon would still be alive and would have married Catelyn. But I don’t think Bran will realize this in time. I think he will try to stop the original White Walker from being created (He has hinted at trying to communicate with the past already with his father) When he does this he will try to warg into someone in the past, most likely the man who becomes the first White Walker as he hasn’t ever warged into one of the Children before. If he succeeds, great, battle over before it starts all White Walkers vanish. That probably won’t happen. What probably will happen is that Bran will die. When a person’s body dies while they are warging, they are trapped in the mind of the thing they are warging into. I believe Bran will die in the present while he is warged in the past, trapping him in the mind of the Night King. Over the ages, he probably becomes less Bran and more the Night King. But when Jon was at Hard Home, I think the part that is Bran starts to remember. The part that is Bran will be the key to the Night King’s undoing. They will wrestle for control. If Bran wins, the Night King will be defeated, and his armies will die for good. If not, they are in for another Long Night. I favor the first but grant that it might be too happy for Game of Thrones. Bran travelling back in time might fulfill the sun rising in the west part (like time running backwards) of Mirri Maz Duur’s prophecy, so if Dany has a living child and the Mountain gets thrown about in the wind (maybe his body is cremated and blows in the wind), might Khal Drogo return?

The Direwolves: There are two still alive, Ghost and Nymeria. Nymeria seems to no longer be tied to Arya and is roaming the Riverlands. I sort of think she was taken out and probably won’t play a huge role, but I hope that what happens is that since Lady died for Nymeria’s crimes, I hope that when Arya dies fighting for Sansa, that Nymeria will return to the surviving Stark sister. I think that Ghost will probably fight alongside Jon and may eventually die, or Jon may warg into Ghost when he goes (this is hinted at in the book as an ability he has along with his siblings.)

The Dragons: Danaerys named her dragons for her two brothers and her husband: Viserion, Rhaegal, and Drogon. She rides Drogon exclusively. Rhaegal is named for Jon’s father and I would guess Jon will be Rhaegal’s rider. Viserion fell to the Night King (Viserys perished at the hand of another king) and is being ridden by him. There might be a way to get him back, if Dragon binder comes into play, or if Bran Stark can warg into Viserion (either way, Bran is flying, as promised by the Three-Eyed Raven) There are several hints about three dragon riders in the prophesies. If Dany is one and Jon is another, who is the third? Many people think Tyrion (who may be the illegitimate son of Aerys, making him Dany’s half brother). I kind of don’t think so, but maybe.

I think it likely that at least one, maybe two, of the dragons will die. Who will bring them down? I think they are likely to parallel their namesakes. If Viserion dies (again) it will be Drogon that kills him. If Rhaegal comes down, it will be at the hand of Gendry. And if Drogon dies, it will be Danerys herself who has to kill him in the end.

It is worth noting that the first Targaryens to conquer Westeros were Aegon, Visenya and Rhaenys Targaryen. It would be appropriate if the dragons that conquer it a second time were Drogon, Viserion and Rhaegal.

Is the throne of the Game of Thrones necessarily the Iron Throne? Are we even looking at the right combatants? Are the gods fighting for control? Death and Life? Good and Evil? Which will win? I would love to know what you think!

Okay, I’ve spent far too long and this and want to post it before the premiere in a few hours. I’m sure I’ve missed something, but that’s all I can fit in so far. Also, I typed this late at night, so forgive any typos and misspellings.

*added 4/22/19 I haven't watched yesterday's yet! I'm going to do that immediately!

3 comments:

  1. Marion! I love this. (Also “You’re welcome”: nice reference to GRRM’s post-Purple Wedding tweet ��) apparently this will post as “Google Account”, but this is Hillary, your favorite babysitting charge.

    I would love to talk more with you about GoT, but for now, I have thoughts on your Prophecies predictions.

    1, Azor Ahai: I have a lot of thoughts on the various characters’ qualifications for this, but Tyrion also fits the bill pretty well. “Born amidst smoke and salt”: Battle of the Blackwater, where he was arguably “born” as a battle strategist; we haven’t seen him wield a sword, so he’d need to get one, and given his stature he’d likely need a bespoke one, so it would have to be drawn from a forge (obvs, literally drawn from fire); “awaken stone dragons”: he *did* unchain Viserion and Rhaegal in Meereen... unlikely, but would be such an eff-you to Tywin.

    2, The Stallion: agreed, probably Khaleesi Daenarys.

    3, Rhaegar & Elia with Aegon: I think it’s possible that Rhaegar believed Aegon of Elia to be dead, and told Lyanna to name her baby Aegon too; or Lyanna knew Rhaegar wanted to name a son Aegon, Lyanna knew the first Aegon had been killed along with his sister and Elia, and named what she believed to be the only surviving son Aegon as well... but I read that maybe Varys smuggled First Aegon out and secreted him into the care of another family**? (See below.)

    4, Maggy the Woods Witch: agreed about Maybe Baby and valonqar. I wonder if Cersei herself is the younger, more beautiful queen of prophecy - like maybe something she did earlier in her life is exactly what will screw her in the end?

    5, Mirri Maz Dur: agreed with your ideas.

    6, The Undying ‘Three’:
    Fires: so many options, but it strikes me that (1) her first fire was Khal Drogo’s funeral pyre, which would cover life, death, and love; (2) she executes multiple transgressors via fire, in turns freeing the slaves (giving them their lives), killing those who disobey her laws or right to rule (the slavers, the gathered Khals, the Tarlys), and... for love, creating Lightbringer, yet to be seen?; and (3) she ignites the temple of the Dosh Khaleen, for the life of her own rule, the death of those who underestimate her, and the love of the Dothraki. A stretch, but any of those would fly.
    Mounts: agreed with your ideas.
    Treasons: agreed on blood and gold; however, based on Jon’s use of the word “treason” in S8E1, I think he or Sam might have something to do with that one.

    7, The Horns: I don’t know enough about this to really say anything, although you’re probably right about the combining of the Greyjoys (unless Victarion is one of Theon’s unnamed sailing buddies at the moment). I do wonder if Horn Hill is so named because it is the secret hiding place of The Horn of Winter... would jive nicely with the following Bonus Theory, making Horn Hill the Official Secret Safekeeping Place of Westeros.

    **Bonus Theory: if Varys smuggled First Aegon of Rhaegar to safety before The Mountain squished him, he would have gone to a strong but low-profile house, big enough to hide him but B-squad enough to add a kid - even an eldest son - without the Westerosi courtesan gossips going bonkers. House Tarly might have provided the perfect cover, and it would also explain Randyll’s unveiled animosity toward Sam; if Dickon, the clear favorite, would have been denied his true birthrights because of Sam being older, then one of Randyll’s only recourses would be to publicly strip Sam of the ability to claim those birthrights - by sending him to the Wall. It’s a neat solution to an otherwise awkward issue, and if accepting Sam as his ward either earned Randyll a reward or a pardon, it would only reinforce that theory.

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  2. Interesting bonus theory! I love it. Now you've got me wondering about Sam and Horn Hill. The books and show are vague about the timing of Jon's birth and Aegon the brother's death. You could be totally right. The other Aegon could also be a fake (like from a house with Targaryen blood like the Blackfyres, or the Baratheons or just look similar like the Daynes) he comes so late in the book, it is possible he's just a distraction, but Tyrion is convinced and Varys orchestrated, so that is big points in his favor. He ends up going to the Golden Company and from there to Westeros, to Storm's End. In the show, the Golden Company is heading to Westeros to help Cersei. Maybe, the older Aegon is with them, along with Aegon the Conqueror's sword, Blackfyre. That would be interesting.
    Also the mention of the Daynes made me realize I didn't finish my Dawn theory. Ashara killed herself shortly after Eddard returned the sword (made from a meteorite), or supposedly she did anyway. She and Eddard were in love and he was duty bound to marry Cat. I think she is still alive and still has Dawn. She might be posing as a Septa with Aegon and the Golden Company, she has had a baby (possibly with Ned or her other love interest--Barriston Selmy).
    In the book, the surviving member of the family is a squire serving Beric Dondarrion. Maybe, just maybe, in the show they've combined Ashara's son and this last surviving heir in the person of Podrick Payne, and he will be the next Sword of the Morning. I totally forgot to write Pod into my original, darnit.
    1. That would be a great eff you to Tywin.
    4. I love the younger Cersei idea. That would be poetic.
    6. Good points about the fires that fill all three. That is a cool take on it.
    7. I love the Horn Hill idea. Oh my gosh. Now I have to mull that over for a few days!
    Ok. I have to watch season 8 episode 2 before I go crazy!

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  3. I tried to read this, but in this thing your nerdiness has so exceeded mine that I didn't understand it at all. It was like reading "Practical UML Statecharts in C++". (I got that title off one of the books on Richard's bookshelf.)

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